R.J.'s Talkback Plebe Radio ([info]luciusmalfoy) wrote,
@ 2009-07-08 13:24:00
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The Ryan Report
I'm going to read the Ryan Report. http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/may2009/irel-m26.shtml

I don't actually want to because, well, I don't actually want to, because reading this isn't my idea of a good fucking time, thanks. But I think that I should. And I've been kind of putting it off for a while. :/

Australians are very passionate about the fact that they, personally, are sorry for the things their ancestors did when it came to wiping out the native aboriginal people. I guess this is sort of along the same lines. The fact is my family has such a long and high-level association with the Catholic church (on both sides, obviously, but I'm talking about the Irish element primarily here); at many times they were financially provided for by the church in terms of having housing, land, etc; and of course we had many high-level clerics who were relatives of mine - I don't think there's been a generation until my mothers that didn't have at least two members of the generation become either nuns, priests, mother superiors, deans, bishops, etc etc etc.

As you know I've also worked within the Catholic industry myself, with people of all levels including international/Vatican clerics. And, y'know. That Pope dude. I've also had work on Catholicism, fiction and non fiction, published around the place. While I'm religiously a Satanist; and spiritually an atheist, I self-identify as Catholic.

What this long ramble all boils down to is the fact that at some point I need to face the fact that the history of my family was supported and financed by an institution that was bouyed by the bodies of abused children and CONTINUES to fuck about and this seems as good a time as any to recognise this. In the way I figure Australians, or other countries who've fucked up people/races/things, do.



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[info]eclexia
2009-07-08 02:37 am UTC (link)
I don't mean this to sound snarky, and I mean it with all honesty.
So you acknowledge this. Good start, what next?

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[info]luciusmalfoy
2009-07-08 06:30 am UTC (link)
I don't really know. I've finished reading. It's terrible. I think it's so fucked that they haven't CHARGED people.

What do you think?

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[info]eclexia
2009-07-08 06:58 am UTC (link)
To be honest I'm not sure. I've not read it, and I'm not sure I will as my only connection to the church is through Lissa, and she isn't practicing in any stretch of the imagination. This is a little different than the normal social injustices that I try to make myself aware of and to fight as I can inside of my insanely busy-work life... The problem is much more well defined and clear in this.

My answer is likely not yours though, and I phrased the question poorly... I was intending to say: "What will you do about it?", with a side of "Sucks doesn't it?", and a dash of "Some things you can't un-know easily."

For myself in the social issues area, my answer has been to learn as much as I can from people who are willing to talk about the subjects they know some about. To try to think about it and figure out how I can in my little way I can try to not cause the problems they face myself, and to fight it in others.

I'm not sure how that applies in this situation, for you. I know how much the church has played a role in your life, and I cannot imagine how messed up this is.

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[info]luciusmalfoy
2009-07-10 04:44 am UTC (link)
I have like no answers at all. :/

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